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Post by xnuggetx on May 2, 2013 21:43:05 GMT -5
In the may month's that I have been WvWing i have seen the tag KWBH many time's and I'm sure most of you have also. KWBH has decided to move from ET due to the "Bitchy Community". I have been in contact with the leader of KWBH and I believe they could be a great asset to the FC community. As Dan has said in his thread entitled "KWBH" - they can be dangerous and have a good grip on the basics of WvW (field's/ toughness ect). If they came over and joined the FC TS Community they would be a great asset to us.
Here is the catch: they need gold for the transfer. I know that is a big ask of the community but i truly believe this is the rite curse of action. with a bit of guidance KWBH could be a force to be reckoned with within the FC Community!
So my question is. who is willing to try to get them here? and what thought's do you have on the matter?
EDIT: not to mention there coverage is well placed during our coverage "gap" time. its always nice to have move on at the time's we most need it.
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Post by Dan on May 2, 2013 21:53:16 GMT -5
Fuck that for a numerous amount of reasons.
1) They're fun to wipe. Bags, bags, bags.
2) I don't want any fair-weather guilds in this community.
If they want to come here they can pay for themselves. We're not desperate for bodies.
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Post by Dan on May 2, 2013 21:59:36 GMT -5
"I'm willing to pay one copper cause, you know, they're trash. And they're not worth more than one copper in my ass."
--Saoulfou [MAV]
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Post by rikkity on May 2, 2013 22:00:27 GMT -5
sooooo divided on this
would love to have them around
dont wanna bankroll it
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Post by rattlehead66 on May 2, 2013 22:12:35 GMT -5
I'd love to have them join us as some of their players would be a great asset, especially the additional oceanic coverage, although I would worry about them being a bit fair weather given they are jumping ship from ET. Although given ETs situation I'm pretty positive they aren't so much fair weather as far as WvW scores but more so as far as internal server dramas which just about anyone would want to avoid, so I would definitely support any push to recruit them.
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Post by xnuggetx on May 2, 2013 22:13:52 GMT -5
I Have only the best interest in mind for FC and if the FC community dosnt want them then i will make it so, but IMO they would be an asset.
Alice - I already knew you where not going to like this XD, but the fun to wipe thing will not apply if they leave ET hahaha
Rik - I also know that you have the best interest in mind for FC, your oppinion is worth a lot to me.
EDIT: (Alice no offence intended i just knew you wouldnt like it)
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Post by rattlehead66 on May 2, 2013 22:17:25 GMT -5
Fuck that for a numerous amount of reasons. 1) They're fun to wipe. Bags, bags, bags.2) I don't want any fair-weather guilds in this community. If they want to come here they can pay for themselves. We're not desperate for bodies. as far as point number two, they are leaving anyway so you wont be wiping them any-more one way or another, plus its their OCEANIC coverage that we want, that's where we need the extra bodies. |
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Post by eriond on May 2, 2013 22:29:59 GMT -5
Well this could end up going either way for it they decide to come on over. It could go over smashingly, we get coverage we are missing a little, and no drama is brought over. However, due to a somewhat "hatred" some FC and ET harbor towards one another, that if KWBH does come over, this could cause a whole mess of trouble. We could infact have a whole heap of trouble coming over, that FC may in fact have helped buy some of their transfers. Could end up that some of the "cyber-hatred" for each other could spill over, and we have more internal drama as our WvW map chat explodes with all that crap. And that gives the enemy more time to rally, as we are sitting around bickering like old wives. (And we have had numerous experiences like this, some pretty recent).
However, if they do decide to come on over, i will hold no ill will towards them, and i will make sure my guild does the same (or if they do have a complaint to not flood map chat with that stupid bickering). If they are willing to fight for FC, than so be it. Just hope they understand that some people do not let rivalries go, and I do not want another server feud to happen as we end up fighting amongst ourselves again.
So KBWH, if you do come over leave that petty crap of dancing on corpses/laughing when you outnumber a person you kill. We are here to be a better server, not to create more drama as we help fund to bring more in.
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Post by Wuze on May 2, 2013 23:16:49 GMT -5
I'm not crazy about transfers within a tier in general; particularly moving a big guild from a server that's already hurting. For one thing it's a drama bomb; even though they're apparently going to move anyway, moving to an opposing server twists the knife a bit. For another, we waited so long for a balanced matchup that I'd hate to see it get out of hand, even if it's in our favor. It's still going to be hard to move up a tier, if that's even what we want to do.
That said, I know our night crew is spread thin, and it sucks to feel like if you do something else for a day it could cost us the match. And a win or two would do us a lot of good. Maybe we can offer to pay for the transfers in vegemite.
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Post by Aldix on May 3, 2013 0:06:41 GMT -5
id love to see them around as well. the truth is we do need more bodies and they could contribute to our success. another thing, i dont think this is going the drama will affect us as much as it will KWBH. After all, its them doing the transferring not us, were not forcing them to join us.
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Post by pod on May 3, 2013 0:16:46 GMT -5
I don't believe we should pay for them to come over. Personally, I have no ill will towards KWBH and in fact think highly of them as they have a talent for bringing in some major bodies. However, I see a lot of drama. For anyone familiar with the TS they would no there has been a whole heap of looking down on KWBH and that isn't going to go away because they join our server and that will create resentment.
Second, we still have a lot of work as far as developing our own community and until it's strong enough at the core to withstand large WvW guilds swooping in I think we ought to soldier on our own, like we always have. If they want to come, without our gold, I'd welcome them.
They should come here because they want to, not because we bought them.
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Post by Yellow on May 3, 2013 9:54:04 GMT -5
I would like to mention they are a 18+ only guild. So the mind set will be a little different than what you all might be used to.
The bigger question is, who the hell is going to teach them?
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Post by mizahri on May 3, 2013 13:25:41 GMT -5
Eh, I dunno. They'll be good WvW-wise nonetheless but I'm hoping it won't be another CR/FSU guild.
The pros on them joining would be a better, bigger night/possibly morning crew, using different tactics than us might be a good/bad thing since we might learn from them as they do from us. We could possibly move up to tier 7+ because of this. The cons are they might cause drama, and paying them to transfer is gonna be money spent if they are real jerks towards us. But hey, either we should take the chance or don't. I actually think it'll be cool for them to transfer if they will respect the commanders and other Fergies if they'll guarantee it.
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Post by divinemissc on May 3, 2013 13:49:29 GMT -5
Sorry, I agree with Rik, love to have them, *throws out the welcome mat* but the conditions are a bit too much.
They should come to FC because they want to and are willing to pay for it themselves. Imagine the baggage attached if we paid for the transfer? The drama - and we already have enough drama - would be huge.
I don't mind donating to the commanders for siege etc. but this is a pretty big ask.
We need to talk to ANet about bringing vegemite into the game as a commodity item Wuze, but I would vote for that!
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Post by pew on May 3, 2013 18:15:53 GMT -5
Hate to break it to you. KWBH is not going to FC. I talked to Jugg and he refused.
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