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Post by tocos10 on Apr 18, 2013 20:32:34 GMT -5
I was chatting with Berry and he was saying how we need to implement new tactics.As we are now we are way better then before but stacking is not the only thing we should be doing in WVW. He was saying how in Kaineng they did other things in WVW such as false retreats and the pincer. He was saying how he wanted to leave and how the elitism in the server is deterring him from FC. Tell him how we need and want to get better! Tell him how all the good commanders are needed! Tell him he has to prove his worth on the battle field. You cant become the commander with out being an officer.You cant become the world champ with out practice and deterioration. Lets try to keep him on the server. One more WVW or is still better then zero. Lets show him how we are not all elitist. Lets show him how we are welcoming to everyone good and bad,hardcore and casual.
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Post by tocos10 on Apr 18, 2013 20:45:56 GMT -5
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Post by shanara on Apr 18, 2013 22:28:34 GMT -5
Tocos, anyone who wants to help out in wvw should join us. We can all learn together =) Are you talking about lableuberry? (sp?)I haven't spotted him in wvw in a long time.
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Post by alaric on Apr 18, 2013 23:31:14 GMT -5
What guild in Kn was this guy from?
as for working on new tactics. Get the basics down to the point where you don't need to call for it multiple times,than move on from there. Gotta learn to walk before you can run. Get in the "right" builds get your personal guilds working as a tight unit, than worry about new horizons. Just my opinion.
As for this elitest thing I keep hearing about. what is up with this?
Get your guilds geared the way you need them to be geared. Make suggestions as to where pugs should go for build ideas, and if they go they go. If they don't they don't. Your wvw pop is small. Don't go scaring people away by being dick-weeds in game. Be civil to the pugs and to each other. even if you don't want to. If you care about making your server better you will do it.
If you care to see a false retreat though. I actually happen to have one in the last video I made. At around 4 minute mark.
We ran head first into TC thinking they would run as they usually do. CERN their top PVP guild was in the group so they stayed to fight. It was about even numbers (i'd say somewhere in the range of 50-60 v 50-60) Its a good way to get a group to blow all their CC on you and hit nothing but air. Than move towards you cuz they think you are running only to find out you just want to snake them out a bit. CC them, move around to the back side where the weak guys are trying to back out too, murder them. Works pretty well.
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Post by Dan on Apr 19, 2013 4:58:28 GMT -5
As for this elitest thing I keep hearing about. what is up with this? Big fish in a small pond mentality. Very widespread throughout tier eight, much like that small-town sports star stereotype where the 5'11 white boy thinks he's got what it takes to make it to the NBA.
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Post by tocos10 on Apr 19, 2013 6:54:35 GMT -5
What guild in Kn was this guy from? 0 I don't know he was just going on how he knew stuff we didn't and how he does not want to teach us because of elitism which is hard to find now.
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Post by Dan on Apr 19, 2013 7:07:17 GMT -5
I don't know he was just going on how he knew stuff we didn't and how he does not want to teach us because of elitism which is hard to find now. It's Lableuberry; he's thirteen years old. Take whatever he says with a grain of salt.
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Post by tocos10 on Apr 19, 2013 8:06:18 GMT -5
I don't know he was just going on how he knew stuff we didn't and how he does not want to teach us because of elitism which is hard to find now. It's Lableuberry; he's thirteen years old. Take whatever he says with a grain of salt. He is still a member of the server.
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Post by eriond on Apr 19, 2013 18:58:17 GMT -5
Well here's one thing we can do. We can have some small units (1 or a few more people) who are mobile, and can start causing distractions deep within the enemies territory. For example: flipping camps, denying supplies for a sieged up tower/keep so the defenders end up with no supplies and they slowly become desperate to start running supplies. This drains any nearby towers, or camps.
Have people go up to a tower and try and hit their doors. Hit as many as you can, cause more distractions as some of the enemies (if you are lucky you can peel off a sizable enemy zerg) from the map so they can inspect the white swords. And when you are sieging up a place that has a nearby waypoint, have a few or even one person run up, hit the door and force that waypoint to be not usable for 2 minutes.
Cause enough distractions and frustration levels can rise in some of the enemies and they begin to make errors (or they become paranoid and station people at these said towers/keeps to catch the people triggering the swords). This draws people away from major conflicts, and gives your allies a little needed edge.
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Post by bassdrop on Apr 19, 2013 19:01:49 GMT -5
What guild in Kn was this guy from? as for working on new tactics. Get the basics down to the point where you don't need to call for it multiple times,than move on from there. Gotta learn to walk before you can run. Get in the "right" builds get your personal guilds working as a tight unit, than worry about new horizons. Just my opinion. As for this elitest thing I keep hearing about. what is up with this? Get your guilds geared the way you need them to be geared. Make suggestions as to where pugs should go for build ideas, and if they go they go. If they don't they don't. Your wvw pop is small. Don't go scaring people away by being dick-weeds in game. Be civil to the pugs and to each other. even if you don't want to. If you care about making your server better you will do it. If you care to see a false retreat though. I actually happen to have one in the last video I made. At around 4 minute mark. We ran head first into TC thinking they would run as they usually do. CERN their top PVP guild was in the group so they stayed to fight. It was about even numbers (i'd say somewhere in the range of 50-60 v 50-60) Its a good way to get a group to blow all their CC on you and hit nothing but air. Than move towards you cuz they think you are running only to find out you just want to snake them out a bit. CC them, move around to the back side where the weak guys are trying to back out too, murder them. Works pretty well. Ah, yes.. The feign. Tis' the tactic we used to beat agg, except we used a veil then busted a 180 throwing down CC at our heels. Good tactic indeed
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